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Post by Edward GalvezWill you be attending the preconference?
Yes, I will be at the pre-conference in Berlin. I especially like to learn
about reporting, measuring, evaluation, grants, design and visualisation.
Post by Edward GalvezIf so, we will have tools rotations (15-30 minute trainings), but we
won't be going in deep into the Wikimetrics.
A pity, I am looking for having a good example, using it on site myself and
having the possibility to have direct questions to be sure I understand the
tool properly.
Post by Edward GalvezThere are videos and presentations available on the page that Marcel
linked to. We would also be happy to meet up and answer any questions you
have.
Okay, I will look at those next week. At this point I am looking for a
general introduction, then being able to continue myself, as well as I can
help others with questions here locally in Belgium (and beyond) with the
questions they have. I try to get the Cohorts used again in full depth so I
know what questions to ask in Berlin, but I must say it often works easier
in participating in a workshop with hands on trying and asking.
Concerning Quarry, I am not sure what I should use it for. I see it gives a
list of uploaders and file names and dates, based on a certain category. In
general handy to know for other purposes, but I am not sure where I should
use it in the context of the cohorts?
Thanks all for the links and information!
Greetings,
Romaine
Post by Edward GalvezHi all,
Post by Marcel Ruiz FornsHere's a link to some documentation created by the grant-making team on
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Wikimetrics
Maybe you've already seen it. Otherwise, hope it helps.
Not seen it yet I think, will have a more detailed look next week after my
presentation on a conference coming Monday.
Post by Marcel Ruiz FornsOver the last several months, Amanda and the Analytics team have worked
generating a Global Metrics Report requires minimal input and
configuration: https://metrics.wmflabs.org/reports/program-global-metrics
. I think this will meet most of your needs as well.
Coming Saturday I have a new event, an edit-a-thon about the GenderGap in
Brussels. After it I will try this reporting link.
Post by Marcel Ruiz FornsI noticed in your image of the digitization project that you had a count
of images were added. Alas, there is no easy way to get that metric at
this time :-(
That would be handy to have. I notice in BaGLAMa or GLAMorous (overview
<https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Resources/Tools>) that one of
these tools do have the possibility of checking how much an image is used.
Maybe based on to dates in time it possible to see the difference and then
knowing how much images are added?
Post by Marcel Ruiz FornsWill you be attending the preconference?
Yes,
I must conclude that with all the pages and sites, I lost the overview.
Post by Marcel Ruiz FornsThanks for the question Romaine. Will you be attending the preconference?
If so, we will have tools rotations (15-30 minute trainings), but we won't
be going in deep into the Wikimetrics. There are videos and presentations
available on the page that Marcel linked to. We would also be happy to meet
up and answer any questions you have.
As for images in categories, you can use glamorous (currently not
loading) in Toollabs to gather number of images in a category and how many
times those images are use in wikimedia projects.
http://quarry.wmflabs.org/query/939, will give you a timestamp about
when users upload a photo, so you can attribute it to a certain event, as
long as the event has a category. To use, log-in, create a new query, and
copy and paste this query into the new one, modify the category.
Hope this helps!
E
Post by Kevin LeducHi Romaine,
I'm cc'ing Amanda Bittaker from the Programs, Capacity & Learning team
as she may know more about Wikimetrics training opportunities and Berlin.
Over the last several months, Amanda and the Analytics team have worked
generating a Global Metrics Report requires minimal input and
https://metrics.wmflabs.org/reports/program-global-metrics . I think
this will meet most of your needs as well.
I noticed in your image of the digitization project that you had a count
of images were added. Alas, there is no easy way to get that metric at
this time :-(
Regards,
Kevin Leduc
Post by Marcel Ruiz FornsHey Romaine,
I'm glad you feel better :].
Here's a link to some documentation created by the grant-making team on
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Evaluation/Wikimetrics
Maybe you've already seen it. Otherwise, hope it helps.
Cheers!
Hello Marcel & Kevin,
Due some illness on my side for the past weeks I had not the energy to
respond earlier.
Thank you for adding the request to Phabricator. I had not realised
that this is also used for Wikimetrics, I regular add tasks to Phabricator.
When I wrote my e-mail to you, I was exploring cohorts so we can use
it for Wikimedia Belgium in so it will be easier to get metrics for grant
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Placa-113.png And I like to
use metrics to create these as well.
I must say that I got lost at some point in the cohorts/wikimetrics
system, I do not know any more where I could choose for affiliation tags,
but I came across them somewhere.
As I got lost in the system and do not understand somehow what certain
parts have as function or how/when they should be used, I hope to get a
training in using it, perhaps with Wikimedia Conference in Berlin or to
learn from someone who has experience in using it.
Thanks again for the help with my question/request!
Greetings,
Romaine
project leader & board member of Wikimedia Belgium
project leader & volunteer of Wikimedia Netherlands
Post by Marcel Ruiz FornsThanks, Kevin, for forwarding this.
Romaine, I added the tag to Wikimetrics and the wiki page.
Note that when you add any tag, it becomes public for anyone to use.
Thanks!
Post by Kevin LeducHi Romaine,
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T124492
This sort of thing will require a programmer to make a simple change
in the code, but before that happens, it needs to be prioritized over other
work.
Can you give us a better sense of how you use tagging? Do you tag
all your cohorts? How many cohorts do you have? How does tagging make
your work easier?
BTW I have cc'ed the wikimetrics mailing list as others on this list
may be interested.
Best,
Kevin
On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 6:08 AM, Romaine Wiki <
Hello Kevin,
Trying out metrics.wmflabs.org for Wikimedia Belgium I stumbled
into a list of affiliations that is incomplete. I noticed that you are the
https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Analytics/Wikimetrics/Standard_tags
Can you please add Wikimedia Belgium to the system and this page?
wm:BE-Wikimedia-Belgium
Thanks!
Romaine
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